Chapter 1: Drew Afualo's Impact in Online Discourse

Drew Afualo is a figure I genuinely admire. Her intelligence, bravery, and unapologetic demeanor set her apart.

Afualo once remarked in an interview with Rolling Stone, "Women have always been expected to take the high road—showing patience, kindness, and grace to men, despite their disrespect." She also pointed out, "As a woman of color who doesn't fit the traditional mold, I face various forms of prejudice that influence how people react to my work."

Though she encounters a flood of negative comments, there's a silver lining; her platform continues to expand. "For centuries, men have acted with impunity," Afualo stated in a TikTok critique. "Now, a new force is emerging."

The comment section often embodies the most grotesque human sentiments. Navigating it requires a resilient spirit and a fierce mindset, qualities that Drew Afualo possesses in abundance.

Her popular podcast, The Comment Section, became exclusive to Spotify on April 5. While many social media influencers struggle with the podcast format, Afualo has excelled.

In each episode, she and her guests delve into their tumultuous comment sections, discussing the underlying themes of racism, misogyny, and bigotry that surface.

This week's installment features the talented singer-songwriter Meghan Trainor, where they converse about the challenges of motherhood, Meghan's new book Dear Future Mama, the behind-the-scenes experience of Drew's cameo in Meghan's "Made You Look" music video, sibling dynamics, and, of course, the infamous comment section.

Here's a glimpse into some key moments from Drew and Meghan's dialogue:

24:32–25:23: Meghan reveals to Drew how she inspired her song, "Mother."

Meghan Trainor: "You played a significant role in shaping 'Mother,' the song... When I was explaining the concept to my straight brothers, they reacted negatively. I told them it was meant to provoke annoyance. It's similar to all the times we wonder who allows men to dominate discussions and podcasts. That was my target with this song…enough with the mansplaining."

Drew Afualo: "That’s Meghan Trainor acknowledging my influence on her best work, which is clearly this song."

Meghan: "You contributed to it. I thought about how Drew approaches things, and that inspired me."

54:21–55:22: Meghan shares her wisdom for expectant mothers.

Drew: "What’s your top advice for those about to become mothers or those who aspire to be?"

Meghan: "You're doing the best you can, and that's what matters. Be gentle with yourself. You know how we all tend to be hard on ourselves in life, whether it’s about self-love or career progression? When you become a mom, that pressure multiplies because of mom guilt. Once you return to work, you might worry your child won't recognize you. But that’s not true; it will pass, and your child will adore you. We’re all human, doing our best, and creating life is a victory. You’re here, striving, and that’s commendable. There’s no singular way to do it."